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Post by Ϛ Christopher Nightingale on Dec 16, 2008 23:22:51 GMT -5
Well, I personally don't think getting loud is going to solve anything, so I'll answer you as evenly as I can. The Gifts you mention do not kill directly, they are merely obscure means with which you may kill a person.But this doesn't matter, because what I am saying is that these things should be regulated, not ignored as possibilities. Also, drawing a parallel between RP and RL is not a strange notion. Sure, the feelings are much more real, but the idea is the same; comparing death to disability. Besides, it was just a question anyway, not an analogy. Lastly, I'm not going to bother arguing further, because in the end, your word is the law, but I will leave you with one last thing; I cannot make you angry, anger is a choice. I can influence your decision a great deal, but in the end, you -always- decide how you feel, no matter the emotion, no matter the person. One gets loud when one gets angry, it happens. Every Gift that kills directly is counter-balanced by other circumstances. Furthermore, what I'm demonstrating is that you have to draw a line somewhere, because it's a slippery slope argument. Every Gift can be used to kill, either indirectly or directly, so you have to figure out where to draw the line. The analogy is simply flawed, not completely useless. In addition, I have addressed what you presented, and answered it as I did. Yes, no one technically controls another person's emotions (in RL anyway). But a person can purposefully say and do things to irritate and anger the other person, past the point where someone says to "stop." the natural reaction is going to be anger, that's what happens. So, in acting in a manner that irritates and angers, you are part of the cause for the actions. In the end, it's a mix of two factors. I would not get angry if you weren't antagonizing me. The easiest solution is to draw the line with death itself and not with the Gifts, which, I believe, is what we have done? The 'analogy' is not an analogy, as I have said, but I do know you answered it, and what you said is similar to my own opinion. Who wouldn't be sorry for the loss of their legs, at least for awhile? And I didn't say that I had no hand in your anger, just that ultimately the decision is yours. Keeping a level head is easier than it seems, especially when not in person, but it's still not a simple thing, for sure. A good tip is to remember that you're arguing with pixels on a screen. Makes the whole thing seem absurd enough that you may even laugh. Not to say you're nothing more than pixels, of course. The pixels are a proxy, but you can afford to forget that for a quick, stress-relieving giggle, methinks.
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Post by ĸara вelova★ on Dec 16, 2008 23:31:06 GMT -5
-le sigh-
Nicki cannot believe she is going to say this, so she is going to refer to herself in third person to distance this strange creature from what she believes is her regular self.
Nicki asks Matt to take off his clothes and dance take three deep breaths, go grab a bowl of ice cream or raspberry sorbet (because that's the best), and accept this virtual, very thoughtful, impractical shoulder massage. She also requests you exit the suggestions thread until another valid suggestion is made.
Nicki also asks Chris if he can dance like Jorm to Arcade Fire be the one to stop the argument. Because Matt and Chris are both exhibiting ridiculous amounts of Nicki qualities tonight (deliberate antagonization, refusing to drop a touchy subject when called on it), and she feels sort of really really really inadequate watching herself argue back and forth. So for Nicki's sake, she asks you to ceasefire.
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That was like biting a lemon. No wait, I can actually do that withoug cringing. It was more like... stepping between two people you love without armour.
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2008 23:32:01 GMT -5
meh, the problem is I'm too used to arguing with jerks who don't take the time to think things through. If you don't take some time out to insult, then you fail the argument.
it's a sad, sad world sometimes.
I'm usually better at keeping a level head, but I've been on edge today, for some reason. Must be a reaction to the sudden release of pressure from various exams (I'm down to one that I'm frankly not that worried about.)
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Post by ĸara вelova★ on Dec 16, 2008 23:32:57 GMT -5
Nicki also requests you ignore her last post, but will keep it up there for the link in case anyone is curious (because I love Jorm).
Chris is back to his peace-keeping self. Peace-maker Chris kinda scares me.
Dun worry, t'is hot, but still scary.
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Post by Minerva Corrigan on Dec 16, 2008 23:34:40 GMT -5
-le sigh-
Nicki cannot believe she is going to say this, so she is going to refer to herself in third person to distance this strange creature from what she believes is her regular self.
Nicki asks Matt to take off his clothes and dance take three deep breaths, go grab a bowl of ice cream or raspberry sorbet (because that's the best), and accept this virtual, very thoughtful, impractical shoulder massage. She also requests you exit the suggestions thread until another valid suggestion is made.
Nicki also asks Chris if he can dance like Jorm to Arcade Fire be the one to stop the argument. Because Matt and Chris are both exhibiting ridiculous amounts of Nicki qualities tonight (deliberate antagonization, refusing to drop a touchy subject when called on it), and she feels sort of really really really inadequate watching herself argue back and forth. So for Nicki's sake, she asks you to ceasefire.
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That was like biting a lemon. No wait, I can actually do that withoug cringing. It was more like... stepping between two people you love without armour. Jackie is thinking in the third person..and Jackie thinks it's cool that she isn't the only one that says -le sigh- ...but well she says -le gasp- but she doesn't think there is a difference... therefore Nikki is in Jackie's good books and Jackie just might be like...woah...Nikki is cool. and Jax realizes this made NO sense...but thinks it was fun to type in third person (:
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2008 23:34:50 GMT -5
Nicki also requests you ignore her last post, but will keep it up there for the link in case anyone is curious (because I love Jorm).
Chris is back to his peace-keeping self. Peace-maker Chris kinda scares me.
Dun worry, t'is hot, but still scary. you clearly missed us nearly hugging and making up. It's alright though. gotta remember I'm not completely irrational, at the end of the day. gah, a massage sounds good... as does some good RPing. I can hear Amby typing, so maybe she's got something for me to respond to >.>
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Post by Ϛ Christopher Nightingale on Dec 16, 2008 23:36:11 GMT -5
I don't think scary is the impression peace-keeping Chris is going for And Matt, I apologize for antagonizing you. I too am on edge, though for much different reasons. And if you really want to throw insults into the argument out of a force of habit, that's cool with me. I -usually- just tune them out anyway
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Post by tawny on Dec 17, 2008 21:26:47 GMT -5
Should Poison Emission be a one-gift-only thing? It seems pretty dangerous to me.
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Post by ĸara вelova★ on Dec 17, 2008 21:32:20 GMT -5
Should Poison Emission be a one-gift-only thing? It seems pretty dangerous to me.
I think it would need something to counter it, don't you? Maybe we should recommend a less destructive gift choice as a second gift.
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Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2008 22:43:09 GMT -5
Should Poison Emission be a one-gift-only thing? It seems pretty dangerous to me. it's such a wild Gift though... that's my only real reservation about making it a single Gift. It's certainly dangerous enough to warrant it. Though, honestly, I still see Empathetic Projection as more deadly, easy.
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Post by ĸara вelova★ on Dec 17, 2008 22:46:07 GMT -5
-evil grin-
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Post by Garion DeLuse on Dec 18, 2008 0:41:52 GMT -5
Hmmm... where are the healing gifts? They're a staple in super powers!
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Post by Ϛ Christopher Nightingale on Dec 18, 2008 0:43:49 GMT -5
Hmmm... where are the healing gifts? They're a staple in super powers! Regeneration is one, Cellular Acceleration is the other. Jamie is maybe the only healer right now?
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Post by Garion DeLuse on Dec 18, 2008 0:46:23 GMT -5
I thought Cell Accel was for inanimate objects?
*Checks Gifts*
Oh. I seem to be an idiot.
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Post by Ϛ Christopher Nightingale on Dec 18, 2008 0:47:11 GMT -5
I thought Cell Accel was for inanimate objects? *Checks Gifts* Oh. I seem to be an idiot. S'alright. It's a complicated Gift.
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